Comments on: Of ferrets, handkerchiefs, and bird flu http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:49:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Swine Flu: Get to the Swine of the Matter | Kelly's MyQute Fairy-Angel Lifestreaming Bloggie http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321115 Swine Flu: Get to the Swine of the Matter | Kelly's MyQute Fairy-Angel Lifestreaming Bloggie Sat, 02 May 2009 08:54:41 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321115 [...] the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention knew that scientists were already working on mutating the Swine Flu virus as far back as in 2006 - gene-splicing were then done on chickens and f..., and combining them with human genes.  Some of the nasty little beasties went missing which [...] [...] the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention knew that scientists were already working on mutating the Swine Flu virus as far back as in 2006 – gene-splicing were then done on chickens and f…, and combining them with human genes.  Some of the nasty little beasties went missing which [...]

]]> By: The Mexican-pig flu and some synchronicity http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321084 The Mexican-pig flu and some synchronicity Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:38:00 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321084 [...] Euros In New Facility In Mexico To Produce Seasonal and Pandemic Influenza Vaccine Flashback: Scientists Have Already Created Bird Flu and Swine Flu Strain Hybrids Previous Swine Flu Outbreak Originated At Fort Dix Is Swine Flu A Biological [...] [...] Euros In New Facility In Mexico To Produce Seasonal and Pandemic Influenza Vaccine Flashback: Scientists Have Already Created Bird Flu and Swine Flu Strain Hybrids Previous Swine Flu Outbreak Originated At Fort Dix Is Swine Flu A Biological [...]

]]> By: La salve des virus de la grippe porcine, aviaire et humaine - partie I « Les 7 du Québec http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321083 La salve des virus de la grippe porcine, aviaire et humaine - partie I « Les 7 du Québec Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:55:47 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321083 [...] 2006, il a été rapporté que des scientifiques créaient intentionnellement de nouveaux types d’influenza en laboratoire, mêlant des virus aviaires et porcins [...] [...] 2006, il a été rapporté que des scientifiques créaient intentionnellement de nouveaux types d’influenza en laboratoire, mêlant des virus aviaires et porcins [...]

]]> By: Flu kills all scandals « Divining the News (DTN) http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321050 Flu kills all scandals « Divining the News (DTN) Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:54:09 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321050 [...] In 2006, it was reported that scientists were intentionally creating bird flu and swine flu hybrids in the labs! [...] [...] In 2006, it was reported that scientists were intentionally creating bird flu and swine flu hybrids in the labs! [...]

]]> By: Today’s Tidbits http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321032 Today’s Tidbits Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:45:01 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-321032 [...] In 2006, it was reported that scientists were intentionally creating bird flu and swine flu hybrids in the labs! [...] [...] In 2006, it was reported that scientists were intentionally creating bird flu and swine flu hybrids in the labs! [...]

]]> By: Steven Den Beste http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-290312 Steven Den Beste Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:37:55 +0000 http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/12/18/of-ferrets-handkerchiefs-and-bird-flu/#comment-290312 Fumento lists two possibilities: a mutation in a strain of flu alread present in humans, and a case where a human contracts two forms of flu simultaneously and they mix their genes. He missed one, and it's pretty important. It actually turns out to be very difficult for humans to contract avian influenza, and likewise very difficult for ducks and geese to get human influenza. But swine can easily get them both. The scenario that Fumento missed is that on farms where humans, ducks, and pigs all live together in close proximity, pigs could simultaneously get avian influenza and human influenza, and the gene mixing could happen in the swine. Then humans could catch the new mixed strain. The dirty little secret of modern epidemiology is that most of the new strains of flu that go around come out of China's collectivized farms, where farmers, ducks, and pigs do indeed live in close proximity. The nation of China doesn't want anyone talking about it, for various reasons, and epidemiologists who want to maintain access to China (in order to track new strains of flu when they arise) don't talk about it much. Fumento lists two possibilities: a mutation in a strain of flu alread present in humans, and a case where a human contracts two forms of flu simultaneously and they mix their genes.

He missed one, and it’s pretty important. It actually turns out to be very difficult for humans to contract avian influenza, and likewise very difficult for ducks and geese to get human influenza. But swine can easily get them both. The scenario that Fumento missed is that on farms where humans, ducks, and pigs all live together in close proximity, pigs could simultaneously get avian influenza and human influenza, and the gene mixing could happen in the swine. Then humans could catch the new mixed strain.

The dirty little secret of modern epidemiology is that most of the new strains of flu that go around come out of China’s collectivized farms, where farmers, ducks, and pigs do indeed live in close proximity. The nation of China doesn’t want anyone talking about it, for various reasons, and epidemiologists who want to maintain access to China (in order to track new strains of flu when they arise) don’t talk about it much.

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