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		<title>By: MarkD</title>
		<link>http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2009/06/24/more-on-health-care-reform/#comment-324768</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no limit to what I would buy with other people&#039;s money.  We can have good health care, or we can have cheap health care.  You get to choose one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no limit to what I would buy with other people&#8217;s money.  We can have good health care, or we can have cheap health care.  You get to choose one.</p>
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		<title>By: mld678</title>
		<link>http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2009/06/24/more-on-health-care-reform/#comment-324679</link>
		<dc:creator>mld678</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having access to affordable health care coverage as costs rise, is a key issue for many Americans right now and should be Congress’ top priority.  Friends of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports alternatives for individual health coverage.  Learn more about some of the proposals and sign a petition at http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40 .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having access to affordable health care coverage as costs rise, is a key issue for many Americans right now and should be Congress’ top priority.  Friends of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports alternatives for individual health coverage.  Learn more about some of the proposals and sign a petition at <a href="http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40" rel="nofollow">http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction/index.cfm?ID=40</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: bagoh20</title>
		<link>http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2009/06/24/more-on-health-care-reform/#comment-324673</link>
		<dc:creator>bagoh20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are the richest nation in the world because we have not relied on government to provide most services.  Kinda like asking daddy:  &quot;If we are so rich, how come you work all the time.&quot;  Look up the statistics and you will see that state run health care in other countries if far inferior to ours in terms of wait time and delivery of procedures.  I am a cancer survivor who required an organ transplant fast, that cost $500,000 to my insurance company.  No delays, no refusals or attempts to restrict what I needed  My rates didn&#039;t go up and I did not ever have my insurance coverage in danger.  Under any socialized medical scheme I would now be dead from the wait time.  So yea, I&#039;m against state health care out of  &quot;self-interest&quot; or self-preservation more accurately.

It will be too expensive in lives and suffering, not money, hell we can borrow all the money we need right?  Additionally, the relatively free market in the U.S. is the worlds breeding ground for new life-saving medicines and procedures.  Other countries&#039; health care systems are the parasites depending on us to create what they then use.  Once we are socialized who will move medicine forward, because nobody else is doing anywhere near the innovation we are.  The telling fact is that people come to the US for better medical care, not the other way around.

There are problems, but they are small compared to the ones that will result from Obamacare.   Remember, everyone in the U.S. gets treated, we just aren&#039;t all insured.  Most not because they can&#039;t be, but because they won&#039;t pay even though they can.  According to the governments own estimates only 10 million more will get coverage, but 300 million will be put into a far worse system.   Again, everyone get treated now.  I know you guys think you know what your talking about, but you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are the richest nation in the world because we have not relied on government to provide most services.  Kinda like asking daddy:  &#8220;If we are so rich, how come you work all the time.&#8221;  Look up the statistics and you will see that state run health care in other countries if far inferior to ours in terms of wait time and delivery of procedures.  I am a cancer survivor who required an organ transplant fast, that cost $500,000 to my insurance company.  No delays, no refusals or attempts to restrict what I needed  My rates didn&#8217;t go up and I did not ever have my insurance coverage in danger.  Under any socialized medical scheme I would now be dead from the wait time.  So yea, I&#8217;m against state health care out of  &#8220;self-interest&#8221; or self-preservation more accurately.</p>
<p>It will be too expensive in lives and suffering, not money, hell we can borrow all the money we need right?  Additionally, the relatively free market in the U.S. is the worlds breeding ground for new life-saving medicines and procedures.  Other countries&#8217; health care systems are the parasites depending on us to create what they then use.  Once we are socialized who will move medicine forward, because nobody else is doing anywhere near the innovation we are.  The telling fact is that people come to the US for better medical care, not the other way around.</p>
<p>There are problems, but they are small compared to the ones that will result from Obamacare.   Remember, everyone in the U.S. gets treated, we just aren&#8217;t all insured.  Most not because they can&#8217;t be, but because they won&#8217;t pay even though they can.  According to the governments own estimates only 10 million more will get coverage, but 300 million will be put into a far worse system.   Again, everyone get treated now.  I know you guys think you know what your talking about, but you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2009/06/24/more-on-health-care-reform/#comment-324657</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From men in Oregon and Texas, respectively:

&quot;Could you please start by explaining why the rest of the civilized world can afford universal health care and we, living in the &#039;richest country in the world,&#039; cannot? Until this is clarified, I don&#039;t believe anyone that claims universal health care is too expensive for us. Rather I am convinced that anyone who opposes universal health care with a public option is simply defending the parasitic health insurance industry out of self-interest or ignorance. &quot;

&quot;Face it, the free market failed in providing affordable health care to everybody, that&#039;s why we&#039;re in a crisis. Greed and lack of competition brought it down.  The only way to cut costs is to get rid of the middlemen. 30 years ago medical coverage used to be a non-profit enterprise and it seemed to work. Having employers providing health benefits is silly in this day and age when the workforce is more mobile, is changing jobs all the time, is being outsourced, and is laid off all the time. Losing a job is not the ideal time to lose your health coverage. It&#039;s a life and death matter for your family if your boss is in a bad mood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From men in Oregon and Texas, respectively:</p>
<p>&#8220;Could you please start by explaining why the rest of the civilized world can afford universal health care and we, living in the &#8216;richest country in the world,&#8217; cannot? Until this is clarified, I don&#8217;t believe anyone that claims universal health care is too expensive for us. Rather I am convinced that anyone who opposes universal health care with a public option is simply defending the parasitic health insurance industry out of self-interest or ignorance. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Face it, the free market failed in providing affordable health care to everybody, that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re in a crisis. Greed and lack of competition brought it down.  The only way to cut costs is to get rid of the middlemen. 30 years ago medical coverage used to be a non-profit enterprise and it seemed to work. Having employers providing health benefits is silly in this day and age when the workforce is more mobile, is changing jobs all the time, is being outsourced, and is laid off all the time. Losing a job is not the ideal time to lose your health coverage. It&#8217;s a life and death matter for your family if your boss is in a bad mood.&#8221;</p>
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